Insider Q&A: Google's Annie Jean-Baptiste On Inclusion
Insider Q&A: Google's Annie Jean-Baptiste On Inclusion
As the head of product inclusion at Google, Annie JeanBaptiste works to help ensure that the companys products from photos to search to everything else are built with everyone in mind, including women, underrepresented minorities, and people of different ages, abilities, geographic locations and economic status. Her new book, Building For Everyone, offers advice to other companies on inclusive design practices.

OAKLAND, Calif.: As the head of product inclusion at Google, Annie Jean-Baptiste works to help ensure that the companys products — from photos to search to everything else — are built with everyone in mind, including women, underrepresented minorities, and people of different ages, abilities, geographic locations and economic status. Her new book, Building For Everyone, offers advice to other companies on inclusive design practices.

Jean-Baptiste spoke to The Associated Press recently about her work. The questions and answers have been edited for length and clarity.

QUESTION: Can you tell me about your work?

ANSWER: We started product inclusion as what we call a 20% project, which means we get to spend 20% of our time doing something that were passionate about, even if its not our role. And the goal of product inclusion is just to make sure that were really building products for the world. We know that were designing for people who come from different places, different races, economic status and more. Whats most exciting is to make sure that were showing up for all of our users in the moments that matter most for them and making sure that teams understand that innovation comes from having multiple perspectives at the table and making sure that historically underrepresented perspectives are at the table.

Q: How do you do this when those people are not at the table? Tech companies, including Google, have still have a long way to go with diversity.

A: First, its really important to have a shared language and education. So we spent half a year educating our technical Googlers around what inclusive product design means. And we have had 12,000 technical Googlers go through that training. The second thing is to be really intentional and proactive about what point in the process we need to bring that inclusive lens in.

One of those places is in user testing. Weve brought together 2,000 Googlers from historically underrepresented backgrounds across multiple dimensions of diversity to help us test our product. With Google Assistant, for example, we did adversarial testing to essentially break the product right before it launched. So we just got stuff out, anything that was alienating, but also proactively brought in the experiences of our underrepresented Googlers. So when you ask it different things about cultural moments, it will represent those communities.

Q: How can Google and other companies make sure that this work is not solely being put on the shoulders of black employees and members of underrepresented minorities?

A: We all have to have a part in this work. The biggest way we weve been able to do that is to make sure that its not just our inclusion champions who are driving this work. So we are educating product managers, engineers, marketers, etc. and everyone has a role to play in it. It doesnt just live within one team. It also doesnt live just within people who have been historically underrepresented. Its all of our responsibility.

Q: How do you how do you do pushback to these efforts, both from within and outside of the company?

A: What we try to do is help them understand that this isnt just mitigation of potentially insensitive work but it is also a ton of opportunity. So when you look at the underrepresented groups, there are 1 billion people in the world with a disability. The U.S. Black population has one-fourth of the purchasing power. So its really important that we bust the misconception that underrepresented groups dont necessarily have power because thats not true.

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